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Judy, I have heard that those little chocolate/gold coins have melamine in them. Can't verify it but I don't plan on letting my kids eat them!!!!!

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Many of you may not be aware of the Melamine contamination going on in China. Companies in China are using a toxin called Melamine in their milk products to fool tests in to thinking that their milk product has more protein than it actually does. This toxin is killing and making many children in China very sick. You may think this does not affect you. Truth is it does, many products as you know are made in China and sold here in America. The FDA is being quiet about this topic because of the elections going on. If you want to be sure to be safe this halloween and with your children's milk products, check the ingredients on the product for 'Milk Powder'. If it has this product and is made in China, stay away. Yes I know, there is a chance that this is safe, but it's not worth the chance. IF this toxin is in your child's food and they eat it, it will not just go through their system and exit. It stays in their body and builds up over time and will eventually make your child very sick or worse, kill them.

So be responsible this halloween and check your children's candy FIRST, and do not distribute products with 'Milk Powder' that are made from China. Thank you for your time.

Posted by: Chuckster at October 27, 2008 12:20 PM

Yeah that's what we need in Portland. More rental properties.

Yes their building is up for sale but I'm not sure Linson owns that property. He could just be leasing it. He has lost some listings lately (mine included) because his agents have left and went elsewhere. I was told he is more interested in the Rental part of his business so he might be looking for a smaller office.

are Linsonns moving out of town also ? I saw their office building listed on that realtracs site. the address kind of threw us off at first with the ...ABC zoning it's called ?

What If,
Thanks so much for your concern. I've known about the early voting schedule since it's been out about a little over a month ago. And I voted on the 15th. My point being was to thank the one who posted as to encourage the lazy souls to get out and vote!!

MDL,

All you had to do to find the information you needed about early voting was to look in The Progressive.

They've had stories about that in each of the last two issues.

Curious,
Thanks for posting the early voting info. I knew when it was, but wasn't certain of where the bldg was. I've lived her a little over four years and have been down Main Street I think twice...

I found out from City Hall about early voting in Portland and will post here for all:

Mon., Oct. 20 12-6 p.m. @ Kerley Bldg.
Tues., Oct. 21 12-7 p.m. @ Kerley Bldg.
Wed., Oct. 22 12-6 p.m. @ Kerley Bldg.

The Kerley Bldg. is on the end of Main Street nearest the railroad tracks.

By the way, thanks to the site administrator for posting the early voting info. I did not find that information in yesterday's Leader, nor did I see it scrolling on channel 3. I was actually going to have search it out on the web today because I was hoping to vote on my day off on Monday.

MG62 - well, had no idea aboaut the quality issues of Marble Slab..with that kind of service, I can see why they would have problems and lose their business !

I just saw on the news that Linens and Things was going out of business !

I imagine movie theaters are having it hard to, especially with the economy they likely aren't selling much of anything other than just tickets. I know my gf and I have not been to a movie in a couple months, and we used to go often.

I've never been to that particular Marble Slab, but from what I have heard they also had some quality issues. One of my family members recently purchased an ice cream birthday cake there--I think she said it was more than $20. The decorations and icing tasted of a distinct "chemical" flavor. Even on returning the cake nearly intact, they had a hard time getting their money back and never did receive even an apology for ruining someone's birthday party.

I agree that businesses who provide "luxury"-type product may have trouble existing in this economy, however, businesses with inferior products or less than stellar service may also fail. Unfortunately, now they can blame the problem on the economy, not themselves.

We saw that sign, too. But did you notice Baskin Robbins has a promotional for just about every day of the week? I bought my children two small cappucino blasts (or something like that) and spent $6.21. I thought that was a decent price. They seem to have a BOGO or BO-half off second for each day of the week. It's hard to compete with those brand promotionals.

Well I saw that too ! I'm sure we'll be seeing more of those signs if this economy dosen't get better. Businesses that aren't so necessary will probably feel the pain first.....people are starting to cut out all the "extras"...and "luxury" things like that, don't you think ?

Was in Gallatin tonight and saw that The Marble Slab Creamery was closed and had a sign in the window. It Said closed due to the economy. When I read that all I could do was Laugh and think that the sign should have said closed due to our high Prices.

Self employed here. I charge the same flat rate to get more runs and if i go over 75 miles the rate goes up. Would you get your product from someone who can deliver at a lower price or from someone who has a team of drivers and charges a bit more. I charge a flat rate so i can steal the big guys customers and make more money for my self.

Gasman. You would deliver at the same price seventy five miles from rack that you would ten miles from rack? What company do you work for? Please feel free to educate all your fellow Americans on the ins and outs of the gasoline business. I need to be better educated before I post on here? Thanks for the education, Joe the Gasman. Now with that said go ahead and tell everyone how ya'll have been making forty to fifty cents per gallon wholesale during the hurricane season.

Tomcat you need to learn a little more about the gas business before you comment on it here. I deliever gas and charge all the stations the same rate that are wihtin a 75 mile radious of Nashville.

The current price is here in Portland is inflated a bit.

We have all had our horror stories at one time or another about buying things in Portland. I had a great experience today with a local company. I was told that the oil company on Kirby Rd. made hydraulic hoses, I went there, got the hose made, paid them, and they thanked me for my business, and as I was about to leave I noticed a pressure washer in the lobby. Long story short I bought a pressure washer at a fair price, I was treated with respect, and most of all I will tell people of the "good" experience I had with a local company. They do sell to the public.

Yes, I knew that Walmart and Sam's Club were the same...I've been a Sam's member and all that...my question was that I didn't know that Walmart had gas pumps at their store in Lafayette . You had said that Walmart set the gas prices there and I didn't even know that the store in Lafayette sold gas. That is what I was asking about.

Deeanna, Wal-Mart and Sams Club are the same; the Wal-Mart in Rivergate across from Old Navy has a gas station and if you're a Sams member you get a discount. Sound familiar now?

Thanks for that info on the gas. I had no idea that Wal-Mart sold gas in Lafayette, or at any of their stores for that matter.

You can buy your gas in Gallatin, still keep your tax dollars in Tennessee and even in Sumner County, and still save at least a quarter a gallon (as of yesterday, I saw gas for $2.99 and $3.00 in Gallatin; the most expensive gas I saw in Gallatin was $3.09, still well less than Portland).

the negative impact of buying gas in the bluegrass, our state does not get their share of the fuel taxes to build/repair roads when gas is bought in Kentucky. Kentucky has five cents less fuel tax than Tennessee, if the difference is only a nickel, that would be one dollar extra to fillup, fund the road tax. That way we will not be blogging about how bad the rroads are here in Portland. We need to talk to the store managers, let them know you want to buy gas here,but you will not be held hostage, this has worked in Gallatin and Hendersonville, look at the prices.

The best thing we can all do is NOT buy gas here in Portland until they quit gouging and get their prices in line with everyone else. I personally never get gas in Portland. Franklin is only about 4 miles up the road, and it just makes more sense to do what I can to save money!

yes, Wal-Mart sets the price of gas in Lafayette. Gas 101, you put a number eight foot high in the sky, if you want to match it fine, the low sign may have a few cents to go down, if you have multiple locations, price is averaged across x stores, box stores have an advantage, they have something in the store to sell, and most importantly, pure size. Wal-Mart has no gas trucks, their tanks are electronically monitored, tank volume gets to the number, a for hire truck is dispatched with load of gas. they know what the cost of gas is, they know the cost of transportation. if gas truck has flat tire, gets held up in traffic, or is even involved in an accident it does not cost Wal-Mart one extra cent. This is the new age of gasoline selling, the only thing owned is the tanks and the pumps. One thing gas stations are encountering is the high transaction cost of the credit card, and it is built into the cost most times.Think about this. Can Wal-Mart negotiate better credit card rates than the mom and pop stores, or in many cases the stores that have the "big" oil sign on the street? SIZE MATTERS.

Walm-mart sets the price of gas ????
Gas is under three dollars at the state line...

I just checked the gasoline futures, they are currnetly trading at $1.8910. This does not include taxes, transportation, profit by the distributor, and the profit by the store. Companies can hedge, not speculate, their prices into futures contracts. Gasoline should be around three dollars per gallon in Portland. I saw gas cheaper in Lafayette, TN over the weekend, freight is more expensive to Lafayette than Portland, but we don't have a Wal-mart setting the price.

Jr. Foods did not renew the lease on the building that is owned by Charles C Parks Co. from Gallatin. Anyone remember the Little Village Markets, that was the c-store division of Parks, it was there prior to Jr. Foods? I am going to miss Jr. Foods gasoline, the pumps would not go above 3.99 per gallon, and I personally believe their sign on the street kept the price in closer check here in Portland. If you feel the gas is too expensive in Portland, tell the store manager, buy twenty five cents worth, and drive on. When their management sees the numbers, something will happen, either gas will come down, or you will see an empty storefront,let's face it, we only have three gas companies bringing fuel into our city, their signs are one cent above Mapco's most days. That tells you who sets the price in P'town.

2.99 in Hendersonville this afternoon. I quess this means they are still gaulginghere in town.

I was wondering what happened at danny steeles residence last night? I drove by there and there was a number of patrol cars at his house with their lights on. Just wondering what was going on if anyone has heard. We don't need anymore trouble in our city. I was just concerned for my families sake. Thanks.

Do you all remember how appalled we all were at $3.00/gallon gas during Katrina? Now we have grown to appreciate $3.00 because it's so much better than $4.00, lol. I admit, I actually didn't believe we would see $3.00 again, and I'm tickled to be wrong about that, even though it may only be temporary. I hope that everyone maintains the gas-saving practices that they started when the prices hit $3.50 and don't go back to their old ways. That is the first way to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

Puzzled...if they are covering the appliances and things with tarps, seems that they plan to use them. Perhaps the kitchen/utility area needed a lot of work.

I'd take over a welcome to the neighborhood gift and check it out. Maybe they could use some neighborly help!

I was in Franklin, KY last night myself and gas was 3.05 a gallon and I couldn't believe it. I thought to myself if only it would go under $3, it could be a sign of prices going even lower. I just wonder if it's all only because they made so much money during the summer that now they are lowering prices. Glad to hear though that it went to $2.95 cause I planned on filling up today myself anyways.

Just an hour into Kentucky from Portland....gas was $2.95 for regular unleaded. Had to rub my eyes twice and make sure I wasn't imagining it!

Seems to me then, that Portland gas stations are price gouging!

Noticed gas at the Hendersonville Kroger was 3.09 today.

gw - I've been in the same boat for the past 5+ years, winter is extremely difficult as during the summer I am able to occupy my time with out door gardening and the like, but very tuff in the winter. I sold on ebay prior to that for about 3 years, did pretty well but got tired of dealing with ebay's annoying quirks and their fees have gotten outragous. Have done some volunteer work too. Maybe we can get a group of us retireeees... lol together for cards one day during the week! And yes, Like DebraP said below, beware of internet scams they are everywhere. And yes you are tied down for 10-12 hours a day doing childcare, perhaps you might consider offering just before and after school care, that would bring in some income and not tie you all day long.

gw....if you think of anything let me know. I haven't worked outside the home in six years and I've been looking for something to earn extra money also. Just be careful of all the internet scams. If they ask for money to work for them, it's a SCAM!!

thanks DebraP and Judy; but after spending the day doing some online research I'm beginning to rethink that whole idea. Too much liability involved plus, I'm not really sure I want to tie myself down for 10-12 hours per day. Like you both mentioned as well, payment can be a real problem. I have just recently retired from a full time job and just want to do something from home to supplement my retirement income. Babysitting probably is not the answer...any ideas?

gw, It seems the going rate for child care is $75.00 to $125.00 a week per child. You have to decide if you will charge for the days the child is not present which most do. Be sure to set your hours and charge extra for every 5 minutes the parents are late. Be sure you have a set of rules and make the parents sign that they received a copy. Running child care is no easy job and GOOD child care places are needed in Portland Good Luck!

I have new neighbors. They have moved in, and in their privacy-fenced-in backyard, is what looks to me to be a trash-heap. I want to give them time, and at first chalked it up to maybe it's just taking them awhile to move in, but almost a month has passed and there is a kitchen range-stove still sitting on their back deck, as well, as shelves, racks, old appliances, you name it, strewn in their backyard. Is this legal? When it rains, they just throw a tarp over everything.

Will the city make them clean it up if I were to call?

Judy--thanks for the info. I would expect payment a week in advance; however, you gave me serious food for thought...I am planning to spend several thousand $ to convert a garage to a daycare room and certainly could not afford nor have the desire to bicker over payment or have to nag people for it. Not to mention, I don't know what the going rate is here in Portland for good day care, i.e. good meals, snacks, learning centers, etc., but I don't plan to do it for free. I will definitely do more research...thanks again. Anyone else have any input on this?

OH, regarding Jr Foods.... The one on the North end of town does appear to be CLOSED, drove by there this morning on way to wallyworld, and yes it looks like shelves are being cleared out like they are closed/closing....
What's with that?

gw - The only thing I could say, as I'm not too aware of the needs, but, set your hours and stick to them, the hours you chose may not work for some, but there are many out there that want someone to sit while they work, then while they shop, and/or while they sit at home and chat with friends before coming to p/u their child. My daughter provided childcare a few years back after my grandson was born and it was a endless battle getting the children p/u as planned. You can understand it will happen on rare occasions but it became 4 out of 5 days a week, and have prepaid fees, I have other family that has done childcare in the more recent days and the reason they stopped is because on the normal friday pay day (end of week) either the child failed to show, or a family member would pick the child up without payment and then they were not seen again, and out a weeks fees. Good Luck!

This is off subject, but did not see a more appropriate place to put it:

I am considering the idea of opening a home child care service here in Portland. Thought I would ask you all for input as to the need here in town for good, quality day care. I am considering a maximum of 5 children, ages from 3-5 yrs. I will provide 2 meals and 3-4 snacks daily. Plenty of play and learning experiences.
Just thought you all might have a good sense of that kind of need here in Portland...thanks

CD - gsi was the big factory right on 109, don't remember what it previously was named but I think it shipped catalog orders for different companies, now it's Empty!

Johnny - You brought out some very good points, ESPECIALLY the Mary Winkler comment, she got away with murder I don't care what her reasons are she should of served her time for the crime, and now they are giving her custody back of the girls, there is something wrong with this legal system. I wonder how rich she will be some day if not already from selling her story! It's WRONG!

I too have been quite surprised by some of the thinking over the teacher issue.

Yesterday/Sat 10/11 gas at the state line was $3.09 how soon will it get below $3.00??
Family in IN are reporting they are buying gas at $2.69... I said WHAT??? Are you sure that's not $3.69?.... nope!

Why are women teachers treated differently than their male counterparts when charged with sex crimes involving students? Why are men treated differently in general? Why does Mary Winkler only serve 5 months in jail for shooting her sleeping husband in the back? Would HE have had the SAME sentence if the shoe had been on the other foot?

Just wondering. I think our courts and our media, and also people like Oprah, portray these cases differently! It always seems like women are made out to be the victim for some odd reason, but men, when charged with these crimes are the devil....

Not sure what gsi is but the Jr Foods that closed on the south side of town closed because the state bought it to widen the road. I haven't been to the other side of town lately but if it has closed then I would guess that it would be closing for the same reason. The town and country was not much of a store and it could have the same reason or just be going out of business because it's out lived it's usefulness. I don't think any of the store closing are because of the economy.

We may lose alot of businesses like GamerZ, and Edison that are close to the road because they will have no parking left for there customer's. The lose of these businesses my make way for new building and new businesses to take their place. Lets keep our finger's crossed that my quessing is right. Maybe Mr. Callis has some input on this and can share with us all.

Portland Fan - I too see places closing undable to stay in business in our town, add to your list, gamerZ, the Attorneys next to the pharmacy left, the medical supply place is moving, Edisons downsized, it is troublesome but I think much of what is currently happening (past 6 months) is a result of our economy, and quite honestly I don't see it getting any better in the near future. This is one time that I will say I don't think anything the City is or Isn't doing or our town in general could of done differently that would of changed this. The little guys are gonna hurt first, as we've already seen. We've seen a little from the larger sector taking a downward spin (factories) with layoffs, this will be key in the months ahead, keeping fingers crossed!

Geez, can we get off the Progressive? It sounds like some of you guys are infatuated with that newspaper because it is all you talk about?

How about we talk about something important like why everything (GSI, Town and Country Market, Jr. Foods, etc) is leaving Portland. What's happening to this town?

Progressive Reader, Molly, Deanna...

I really don't understand why you guys are so worked up about the headline in the Progressive about the teacher and the student. It is a story that needed to be covered.
Some of your comments are ridiculous: not the most important story of the week?...went above and beyond?...why would they talk with a student at the school?...harming the families involved?...only wanting to sell papers?...
Well, I am friends with some of the folks at the Progressive and I know they work very hard to bring the readers the very latest news.
And if you don't believe the story about the teacher was the most important story of the week, what was?
Why wouldn't they want to talk with a student at the school? I guess all those TV crews parked across the street that day when school let out didn't want to talk to students either?
How is reporting the news harming the family? The newspaper didn't make the teacher do what she did??? And selling papers??? What's wrong with that? They are a business, aren't they?
I know this is tough because a lot of people knew the teacher.
But, if it had been a male teacher and a female student, this community would be planning lynching parties for the teacher. He would have been crucified.

I thought this was a blog for people to express themselves but some aho think's they need to delete my posting. I said that i had been molested and it didn't bother me. I quess I was supposed to say it was so Horrible and it had scared me for life. Is that what everyone needs to here to make them feel better about them selves. I'll just say that i wouldn't change anything about my past because any other path would have lead me in a different direction and I am very happy with where i am in my life.

I also said that all the guy's that i work with said that they wish it would have been them when they were in school. I put this on here because I wanted people to see they different people have different opinions. I'm sorry if everyone can't handle that.

I guess that some people on here think that they have the only opinion that matters and they want to censor other people's comments.

I am amazed at the lack of integrity shown by the Portland Progressive. True journalism should not be a sensationalized quote by a CHILD. Stating the facts of the story was just fine. The teacher has been officially charged with a horrible crime and that is factual. It deserves to be reported. However, to quote a child who insinuates that the kids would not have been suprised if OTHER teachers were involved is ridiculous. If, during the investigation, PROOF is found that others have done the same thing, by all means, print the news. But do not make accusations about hard working professionals without evidence. There are many, many teachers who do a wonderful job of caring for our students.
If I want to buy this kind of trash, I will purchase the Enquirer. I also saw the headline of "Oops, she did it again." I only saw the headline because I certainly did not buy the papaer. Nor will I ever.

I believe the book should be thrown at her, but the way the Progressive goes about covering the news leaves a little to be desired. When Daniel left the paper I hate to say this, but the Progressive lost a lot of credibility.
I hated Mr Suddeath columns, but he was a great writer.

Me too! Isn't it great!!!

Just got gas at the State line for *** $3.15 per gallon *** :o))

I noticed that the community web site www.portlandtn.com has posted the proposed School Boundaries for School Year 2009-2010 if anyone is interested.

I just thought the Progressive used a rather "flippant" way of writing their last headline...."Ooops...she did it again".....thought they were trying to be "cute" and there was nothing cute about that story !
Thought they were trying to be entertaining....about a shameful event in our town just for the purpose of selling papers, etc.

This is rape by authority figure and I think this women needs the book thrown at her. A lot of people would be thinking differently if this were a girl and a male teacher. This is reverse sexual discrimination and these boys are just as vulnerable as girls in these situations. I'm shocked that crazyforteache enjoyed their experience but this isn't the case for the majority. This warps their sense of trust and their personal ideas of their sexual identity and future relationships down the road. I have compassion for the victim and for the families effected, even hers, but not for her. She made her bed now she can lie in it. Send her to prison. Laws need to be harsher and they need to be equal for men and women. We fight for equality in the work place, equal rights in every aspect of our lives well why not here too. No probation, go to jail.

I'll help them out and let them have my business so they won't miss you. Why does everyone wine about the progressive. If it is so bad stop buying it and reading it then you won't have to get on here and sulk.

About the pedophile teacher....she deserves whatever the media throws at her. She wasn't too worried about her children when she was molesting someone elses children. Her husband should be the one protecting his children now and make sure this affects them as little as possible.

This is BIG news and should be treated that way. She needs to be embarrassed and humiliated. To me this is one of the worst crimes anyone can commit. I know the kids are teenagers but they are still underage. If they didn't think it was wrong they would have never told their parents.

I was sexually abused, several times, as a child by a member of our church. I never told my parents but I wish now that I had. The person should have been punished for what they did.

Just how would you feel and react if it was your child??

Molly, you're right. Hitting them in the wallet is the only way to really have an impact anymore.
People don't really care so much about words, but they do care when their profits go down.

Did anyone else find it funny they interviewed a 17 year old student about a bunch of rumors. I will never buy that garbage again. The police story would have been plenty, but to go over the top like they did just showed you the kind of class they have at the Progressive. Brian Ruckle how do you associate with those people?? The people of Portland should boycott the advertisers. I know one pharmacy that I will not be doing business with and one bank thats off my list.

Reader....well, don't worry about that...LOL It's a small town and everyone knows everything aout everybody....no one really has any secrets here....LOL

But ---- I do think it's shameful to put the two recent headlines so boldly on the paper as if it were the most important thing going on...and it showed a total lack of concern for her children and the impact this could have on them.
Very insensitive --- a paper dosen't have to be that way to report the news. But......that's what sells....and so that's how it'll be it seems.

I haven't heard anyone say anything about the Old Timer's Day - how was it?

Apparently it's ok for The portland progressive to air out citizen's dirty laundry but when it comes to their owner he has to issue court orders to people to not let his past come out, even when it is documented and public record. What a hypocrite.

Morning All!
Noticed gas is down to 3.29 in Franklin Ky this morning!!

we are a little cornfused here with the topic of liquor. you can purchase beer EVERYWHERE & that never seems to be mentioned. when the IGA was here they were the first IGA we'd ever seen that sold beer.

Someone just told me Keystop/Jr. Foods in Portland was out of gas? What's up with that? Does anybody know anything about this?

Thanks, Judy. It was a lovely trip, absolutely gorgeous weather for traveling, even though I know how much we need rain. Did see a prett big grass fire burning along the interstate near Hopkinsville, and that kind of thing will only get worse if we don't get rain. It sounds hopeful that we will get some tomorrow. We're praying it is so.

mg62 - Yeah they were $3.67 yesterday in town and $3.47 at the state line, wow on the $3.17 in the Fort Campbell area. Hope you had a nice trip.

In case anyone is interested in the price of gas around the region...I just returned from a driving trip to Southern Illinois. Returning today, gas was $3.59 in Illinois--it's almost unheard of for gas to be cheaper in Illinois than here because they have significantly higher gas tax than Tennessee. At Fort Campbell, KY, gas was $3.17 today. Still more than $3.60 a gallon at the Portland stations I saw when I came into town today.

notalwaysfromhere - Thank you, I'm glad you got the courage to participate here I know often things do get a tad out of hand which at times is difficult to deal with. All in all I think we have a great group of moderators, administrators and bloggers here, and yes there are some that are better off ignored than to feed their frenzy.... if ya know what I mean ;o)

*groan*

Can this thread possibly ever have a peacable end to the conversation? Why not talk about abortion?

Can we agree to disagree and move on? Make love and not war?

Thanks Judy. I respect your postings. I read the Portland blog for a long time before I got up the courage to post. You make a great moderator.

notalwaysfromhere - Yes I think that would be wrong/hypocritical, but not if one is just going to eat and satisfy their need for a good meal. The majority of those against are true to their cause and are not hypocrits. If everything that is brought up for a vote was picked apart for the "possibilities" that would/could happen nothing would ever get done. When our City decided to put in a skate park did they say no because it would bring out the thugs that would destroy it in no time, no they didn't. (just a small example of what I am trying to say) There is good and bad in just about everything, proper planning, and ongoing checks and balances will help eliminate possible problems. The only time laws get stretched is when it is allowed to happen, I don't know the full details of lbtd but there were stipulations that made it almost impossible for just a BAR to open in town, but I understand what you are saying and I don't think I misunderstood you at all, rather I agree with what you're saying, just because one goes to O'Charley's that serves lbtd to "eat" doesn't mean they are going against their beliefs and should not be condemned for doing so.

Judy,

Sorry, to be misunderstood. Just trying to say that you (not specifically you, but some of the posters on this blog) can't condemn "Joe" as a hypocrite for eating at O'Charleys in Gallatin when "Joe" rallied against LBTD in Portland. It just doesn't make sense when there are no other eating options if you want a nice sit down meal.

Now if you spotted the people who rallied against LBTD at a bar that would be wrong, hypocritical!!!!
To me that is what most of the people who did not want LBTD did not want here BARS. I know LBTD was only for eating establishments, but you know how laws can be stretched. And really I don't know if I am against bars it is just that if bars came to Portland do you think they would be well run, law abiding establishments or would they be the place to go to pick a fight & cheat on your wife or husband (what's the track record)?

One thing that I would like to add/ask, and probably what people relate to with their
"rally against but support elsewhere" comments is this.

It is your right to not drink because it is against your beliefs, and you have the same right to eat at establishments of your chosing. Why can't you still think that way, (like you do now) still not drink (like you don't now) yet go to those same restaurants (like you do now) and have that good meal right here in Portland if lbtd was passed.? The only thing I can think of is.... checking "for" lbtd is like saying one supports drinking liquor. Maybe it can be reworded if placed on the ballot again, like checking "for" restaurants that sell lbtd. Would that be any different? I don't know, not trying to stir anything but merely trying to understand the reasoning.

Terry George - Thanks for that info, when do they do those counts and where, I have all day to drive back and forth.... lol

It's not really LBTD that's holding things up,it's traffic count.O'Charley's needs 40,000 cars a day to place a restaurant.The most we have anywhere here in town is 17,000.

I voted for LBTD and will do so in the future if given the opportunity. I believe anyone that wishes a good meal will not find it here in Portland that is until 5 Chefs stays open of the evenings, that is the only place in town that would even closely fit the bill, and I understand the likely hood of that happening is next to nil.

About 4-5 years ago there was a place in the old depot building where the mexican restaurant is now that had Great food, a really nice variety with a family environment. We spoke to the owner who said they had a 5 year lease and would be around for quite awhile, welllll..... I think they stayed 1 year give or take. I don't know why businesses cannot survive here. I don't know if lbtd will make that possible or not, but am willing to have the opportunity to find out.

People that go to lbtd establishments do so mainly for the FOOD, not because it has LBTD, I don't drink but maybe once a year and usually a celebration like birthday/anniversary, etc and it would be one alcoholic beverage, not to sit and get hammered. But we visit either Cheddars, Logans, Olive Garden, or Red Lobster atleast once a week. I too am tired of hearing the rallied against but support it else where, they aren't supporting lbtd they are fulfilling their need to have a good meal, and more than likely they are NOT drinking alcoholic beverages.

Those of us that support lbtd have nobody to blame but the ones that were too lazy to get out and vote, and I have 3 of those 5 lazy registered voters it failed by in my own extended family. I am hoping the rumor about a Denny's at the interstate comes true, atleast that would be another option for those opposed to lbtd as I'm sure they too get tired of cracker barrell and myself I would love to have one near by, not the same as a good steak or seafood meal but it would be an alternative.

I did not vote either way on this issue, but I am soooooo tired of this "You rallied against it here, but support it there" being brought up. If you go to Gallatin, Rivergate, or BG can you name any resturants that serve great steak or seafood that are not LBTD? I love steak, but you try to go to places where alcohol is not served and have a great steak. Can you find any? You make it sound like there is a choice. Example: Person has a choice of 2 great resturants where 1 serves alcohol & 1 doesn't. There is no such choice. I go to Franklin Steakhouse (not sure if they serve alcohol or not) and also there is a resturant (A Little Taste of Texas) in Glasgow, KY that was built before they voted LBTD. The resturant had a bar & everything, they just didn't serve alcohol. I know it was built in anticipation of LBTD passing, but I know it was probably 4-5 years before LBTD actually passed. If we had a great resturant that wanted to build here & didn't because of LBTD that would be a shame. Does anyone know if this has been the case so far?

I have the same argument also; am I the same as the other poster?
Are you the same as the other one also? The same old story is the same old poster.
Stirring the pot again?

I thought of something else to drive home even more, the fact that your comparison is extremely stupid.

Say, I was a religious man, and there were two video stores in town. One, in addition to their mainstream releases, rented pornography. The other, only rented out mainstream movies, no adult titles. Which one should I go to? By your comparison, I should go to whichever one I want, even though I told people every other day, the dangers of pornography.

See what I am saying? It would be like me saying, "Don't go to Captain Video in Portland, because they rent adult titles!", then people saw me going to Captain Video in Gallatin. If you don't want a particular type of business here in town, don't support it in our neighboring cities!

To "intheminority". I didn't say I was FOR liquor-by-the-drink, but AGAINST cheeseburgers. If I had, then ,yes, I shouldn't be going into McDonald's if it were Big Macs in which I was rallying against. You rally against liquor by the drink, pastor ( I know who you are), but by your argument, you LOVE and ENJOY liquor-by-the-drink establishments outside of our town. You make a stupid point, in fact it is obvious who you are, because several months ago you made this same point using your real name as a councilman.

OH NO HE DIN-UHNT!

Anyone know what happened on 109 south of town at the little Car lot between the Hospital and SR 76. I went by saturday and the owner was cleaning up his lot. The sign had been knocked down and 1 car looked like it was totaled and four more were damaged. Couldn't tell what hit them and wondered if anyone saw it.

if you are for lbtd, does that mean you cannot eat at mcdonalds, arbys, etc...?
i mean since your being sincere and all

can those who oppose not shop at food lion either? they do sell beer

also;
cannot elected officials leave the city and go out or must they be cofined to the city limits at all times?

can only the pro side can be right?

i think from a freedom standpoint that it is pretty cool that we have the right to vote; the pro side may win this time, and i can accept that

can you accept loosing?

Ummm...how bout them Panthers Friday night? It was nice to see those boys pumped up over their win....

Portland Fan - See it how you wish I see ONE question in their statement as I previously noted.
I see a comment on how they see things here and NOT a question like you say!
Doesn't matter, you have a task at hand, continue on fueling the fire. Need some matches?

Judy,

I think the direct wording from In the minority's post was "Christians are always knocked down, especially on this blog."

Does knocked down mean bashing?

Portland Fan - I think what intheminority asked was - "how come when "Christians" oppose something they are "pushing" their beliefs on someone else but it is ok when someone "pushes" their views on them?"
They did NOT ask - "why christians get bashed on this blog!" as you quoted - my suggestion is perhaps if you would like clarification by continuing to bring up someone's question perhaps ask it as they have, I see your question as attempting to further stir things up..... which I now see someone that has bitten!

Within every faith are many different people with contrasting views about things in and outside of the Bible, to imply one faith or one's religious belief is responsible for something outside of their place of worship is just asking for conflict. Religion and Politics are a given for problems when brought out on this blog.

Okay, I'll bite.

Why do Christians get bashed?

Because many of them absolutely refuse to believe that there is any other point of view. That they may actually be wrong in thier "interpretations" of the Bible etc...

I am a Christian and I happen to strongly support LBTD and have for years. I am not one of those Christians who see's it as the big evil devil that many want you to believe it is. Some of the meanest people on this planet are sitting in church pews on Sunday Morning.

For example, they will sit and tell you how evil and "unholy" you are for having a drink or supporting LBTD. They are very quick to point out everyone elses sins and shortcomings. Of course they try to avoid recongnizing thier own sins in the process such as gluttony, jealousy etc...

And, as others have said, they agressively oppose LBTD, yet show up at O'Charley's, Logans and an abundance of other establishments that serve Liquior. Seems thier actions don't match thier words.

Let's remember Jesus is the saviour NOT Christianity.

Wow. I can't believe how everyone obviously avoided the question about why Christians get bashed on this blog!!!

In the minority had a great question and it should be answered.

Can you say hypocrite ??
They do it because they want to please their pastors and stay in step with their congregation and friends by following what they are told to support.
Just last night I ran into two families at O'Charleys...both who had campaigned against LBTD !

If these people were sincere, they would eat at Cracker Barrel or other restaurants where alcohol is not served. You just can't take people seriosly when they say one thing and do another !

Coming home last night I noticed Mapco had their prices down and bags over the pumps..Why are they out of gas..AGAIN?! This is getting ridiculous.

Once again, why do SO MANY of the people who rally AGAINST liquor-by-the-drink establishments in the city of Portland, because they DON'T WANT IT HERE, give their business to LIQUOR-BY-THE-DRINK establishments in our NEIGHBORING TOWNS?

It's like saying, "I am against strip clubs", then you frequent them on your out-of-town visits!

How funny. My family is watching I am Legend right now and it is 2012 and regular unleaded is $6.63. Guess we're not that far off, huh? Scary.

Curious - Certainly couldn't be any better unless we could add a little rain to it, but it sure has been FANTASTIC! This is my favorite time of the year. I can't believe they have all the Christmas trees and decorations out at Lowes already!! Seems they start that earlier and earlier every year. We might as well have Christmas in July! :o)

So, how about this fantastic weather?

how come when "Christians" oppose something they are "pushing" their beliefs on someone else, but it is ok when someone "pushes" their views on them?
the idea of a free society is to fight for your cause and explain why you believe that way; but "Christians" are always knocked down (especially on this blog)when they stand up for what they believe
many who oppose the "Christians" are always screaming for freedom of speech and that people should get active and vote, but when someone does who does not agree with them, they become the USSR
seems silly to me

Moose - Good One! "I want to make neon signs that say,'He'd turn the water into wine, vote yes."
I vote you in charge of the signs next election.

Hello! Didn't Jesus turn the water into wine? If he wasn't morally opposed to making an alcoholic beverage then I don't see how the church can say drinking is wrong. At the last supper didn't they use wine to substitute for the blood of Christ that they partook with the bread that was the body of Christ?
I'm a Christian and I vote for LBTD every time it hits the ballot. It would have helped if it would have passed eons ago. Now it's probably too little too late. I love the signs that crop up though around that time from the churches opposed to it suggesting that Jesus is against it. You know the yellow ones that ask what would Jesus do? and say to vote no. I want to make neon signs that say,'He'd turn the water into wine, vote yes.'

Not all Christians feel that way about LBTD. Yes alot of Christians are stubborn headed but please do not throw all Christians into one basket.
I'm a Christian and proud of it. I voted for LBTD everytime it has been on the ballot. I think it would help this small town.

Now there will probably be some here that will say I'm not a Christian because I voted that way.

What is really so shocking to me is the amount of people on this blog that are NOT Christians or at least it seems that way from their post.

I think the Christian comment was about Liquor by the drink and how all the church people want to push their No liquor Vote on the rest of us because it is against their religion.

Anyone go to Old Timer's Day today?

Since when does being a Christian = being opposed to change?

How offensive.

Just like you, most people have their reasons for living in Portland. Whether they stay or not has little to do with the opinions of "my kind" as you put it. I'm not trying to run anyone off; I just can't imagine why someone who thinks it is so terrible that they whine and complain about it all time wouldn't look for somewhere better.

Thanks for the comment about the large number of Christians in the Portland community. I'm one, and that's the greatest compliment you could pay our community. Let me know if I can help you pack.

Actually uhaul I never wanted to move here, I have been waiting for the time I could afford to leave. I do think this town has it's good points but too many of the stubborn headed christians afraid of change and some of the bad apples in town are the ones with all the money have ruined it. I'll still remain active somewhat here cause I have familyhere but I'm moving in the coming months and don't really care anymore. I have in fact always tried to shop in town when I could get what I needed in town but fact is there's not much here.

And portland fan I'll be glad to be away from your kind, cause the mentality of if you don't like it move only drives people away. It won't bring anyone knew to your little town that's going down the drain.

Uhaul I would love to move to Hendersonville but i can't sell my house for what it is worth. No one wants to move here because this town sucks so bad.

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Uhaul, I think you're right on point. I agree with you. No one should punish themselves by continuing to live in a place they think is so terrible and so backwards. Let'em go somewhere else. I know I'll get blasted for this and no offense is intended, but if half the time spent whining and complaining on this blog was spent productively trying to improve something in town, it might actually be a better place.

Posted by: portland fan at October 2, 2008 02:18 PM

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Uhaul - Don't know that anyone has said they LOVE, Gallatin, Hendersonville, etc they refer to having to do all their shopping in those towns, thus taking a whole lot of tax revenue with it that could be beneficial to our City if we had more choices here. mg62 hit the nail on the head with "Those of us that you perceive to be constantly complaining are actually challenging Portland to improve, else we will ALWAYS be the ugly step-child" This couldn't of been better said! I've been here for about 12 years and have seen very few changes or strides unless you are talking about the amount of new factories or new houses in the area, or how big strawberry fest has grown. You make a VERY GOOD Point in the love the County gives our forgotten city, but they sure want their county property tax revenue (which I just got the accessment today in the mail) Wish I was writing that check to the CITY and they got what I pay in City Tax. I think it's backwards.... LOL anyway glad you decided to join us with your post and hope you will continue in doing so. Not everyone thinks alike as you can see :o)

Posted by: Judy at October 2, 2008 02:17 PM

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Uhaul--You've apparently missed the point entirely. We would like to see Portland advance beyond the "ugly step-child" status that you refer to. Those of us that you perceive to be constantly complaining are actually challenging Portland to improve, else we will ALWAYS be the ugly step-child, and deservingly so.

Posted by: mg62 at October 2, 2008 12:47 PM

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Posted by: MDL at October 2, 2008 10:26 AM

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I have been reading this blog since it started. I am so perplexed by the way people carry on. The majority of people on this blog speak of how horrible Portland is and how much they love Hendersonville, Gallatin, etc. Well, I have the best idea ever....MOVE! I mean you know that Gallatin has a Wal-Mart....while you are at Wal-Mart, pick up a can of mase, you'll need it down there. Look, I know that this town doesn't have a mall to rack up credit debt, a bar to drown your sorrows, or a movie theater to watch the latest slasher flick, but it does have some great people. i have seen a lot of really great improvements and strides in the last 10 years in this town. We have been one of the ugly step-children of this county for many years. The changes that have been made to this town have taken people a lot of work. It is very few and far between that town like Portland, Westmorealnd, and others "Up here on the Hill" get any love from the county officials. This town has a certain something that you can't get many places anymore. That something is called love. There are more loving people in this town than I have ever been to. All I am trying to say is that Portland is a great place to raise a family. A great place to go for a walk at night and not have to carry a weapon. This town may not be big city living, but that it ain't. Everyone has free-will. If you really dislike this town that much, then move. Just remember that your $120,000 to spend on a house ain't going to go far in Hendersonville or even Gallatin.

Remember, not all people do things for personal gain in this town. Some actually try to make a difference.

Posted by: Uhaul at October 2, 2008 08:48 AM

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Sorry to burst the Mayor's bubble but i do all my shopping in Hendersonville, and Gallatin. That also includes my gas. I'm not about to pay Portland's prices. The stations in Portland are making about 60 cents profit on every gallon of gas. I have family in the gas business and that's what they said. If everyone stopped shopping at the convience store's for a few days they would drop the prices to get their business back.

Posted by: don'tbuyhere at October 1, 2008 09:48 PM

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I also saw the news with Wilber and he did say the retail in Portland was good because the high price of gas kept shoppers in town. Then they went on to show people shopping at Hills, guess that's all they could find to interview people at the retail locations in portland. Oh... must I forget one of the Used Auto dealers in town was also interviewed, wonder how selection was made as we have what 5, 6, 7 of them and they happened to interview the one related to one of our council people.

Posted by: fishtales at October 1, 2008 07:38 AM

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Fox was doing a story about GSI closing in Portland and about small town survival in tough economic times. The Mayor told them that retail sales were okay in Portland because the high gas prices had people shopping in Portland rather than going to other towns to shop.

Posted by: mg62 at October 1, 2008 07:19 AM

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